Things have been rather stressful in my family of late. If anyone is the calm, it's me. And considering that last week, I worked a 22 hour day, then two 14 hour days beforehand, to consider me the calmest is quite incredible.
My Dad in particular has had a rough time. One of his close friends has had to have his leg amputated after battling with diabetes for a considerable amount of time. This, a very short amount of time after his wife was in a car accident that left her paralysed from the waist down and on the left hand side of her body.
My Mum and Dad have been talking about how it seems like awful luck that they've both been affected so severely. However, the bloke ate a very poor diet, didn't do any cardiovascular activity, as well as smoked and drank heavily. His wife wasn't wearing a seatbelt when she crashed. If she had been, she wouldn't have been affected anywhere near as badly as she was.
So I've got some conflict of emotion here. I feel bad for them that they're hurt and having to go through so much trauma and upheaval... though part of me is going 'Well... what did they expect?'
My Mum never copes well in Spring. With the change in the seasons, she's always sneezing, exhausted, swollen and a bit delusional. This year, her reaction is so bad that she's spend the last 5 days in bed. She's only gotten out of bed for bathroom visits. (As in, she hasn't even gotten out for food. We have to go and put food beside her and shake her till she's awake and irritable to get her to eat.)
My brother is sitting exams at the moment, and I don't think I've ever seen him behave so responsibly. Up early in the morning, nutritious breakfast, then at his desk. I swear, I do not recognise the fellow.
So in amongst all of this, I feel like I have the least on my plate. Even with having to work a 22 hour day.
But the conflict of emotions... that's harder to deal with the tiredness. It was easier to have sympathy for everyone when I was dieting, since we were all in the struggling boat. Now that I'm practising intuitive eating and health at ever size, the day to day struggle is not there. There are longer, deeper struggles which have defined my behaviour for years, but as time goes on, I've managed to isolate the reasons behind those behaviours, and then, free myself from them. Being relieved from those damaging behaviours has lifted more weight off me than any number of kilos or pounds. That sort of weight loss has empowered me enough to chug on through tough times without anywhere near as much stress and anxiety as I used to experience.
Yet in doing so, I wonder how relatable I am to people. Misery loves company, but I've been the happiest that I've been in years. Even heading into late November and my most loathed time of the year - I'm in a much more stable and happier place. I want to impart what I've learnt from the intuitive eating and health at every size approach, though I've found that I've stopped myself from commenting on people's blogs since when people write about their struggles, they want sympathy and assurance that the restraints they've placed on themselves are tight enough, or need to be tightened.
I left a comment on someone's blog a while ago. She was in a bit of a funk and had stood on the scales for the first time in a while, and the number was much higher than what she expected. The tone of her post suggested that she was devastated. When I tried to sympathise, like the other commenters, tell her that now the scale had told her what she needed to know, she could work towards a healthier self. Immediately after, she wrote a post that pointed out my comment explicitly, and how I was wrong, and the focus should be on feeling good, not on a number on the scale.
Shortly thereafter, I left a comment on someone else's blog. She was frustrated with the lack of weight loss of late, and was thinking about a diet that was approximately 500 calories per day. The only thing that was stopping her was that when she'd tried diets with that low a calorie intake, whenever she did exercise, she got viciously hungry, so this time around, she wouldn't exercise. I suggested that a diet that low in calories while exercising is not enough, and her body was trying to tell her that by being so hungry. I recommended that she experiment with her calories, find a number that suited her body whilst getting the cardiovascular health benefits of exercise. She responded by telling me that I had no appreciation for how hard it was for someone to lose weight, and that my preaching and pouring cold water on her attempts wasn't helping.
I was all like, "Bloody hell. When I try to sympathise like a traditional dieter, I get told off for not focusing on health and fitness. When I try to focus on health and fitness, I sound like I have no sympathy."
I was talking to Kada about while I'm happy in my own personal sense; as far as blogging goes, I wonder if I'm too far from the dieting scene to sympathise with dieting struggles - yet not enough of an activist to be considered part of the fat acceptance movement. This small conflict in the dieting-vs-fatAcceptance mindset has trickled over into other parts of my life. In the past I would've been wholeheartedly and unwaiveringly sympathetic for my Dad's friend and his wife. Intuitive eating has changed much more than my eating, and in times like this, I wonder whether the change has been worthwhile. I've said in this very post that I'm happier than I've ever been. How can I be happy while other people are paralysed, having their leg amputated, and struggling from day to day with their weight loss efforts - resorting to anything out of desperation; dangerously low calorie diets, constantly punishing themselves with brutal exercise that they do not enjoy. How can I not be affected by the struggles of everyone else?
I know that I am in a different boat to many of you now. Though while we may be heading in different directions, it'd be nice to hear that we still have something in common, and that on some level, our paths still intersect.
Have any of you found yourself in a similar place? It may not be related to dieting, but another area of your life - have you ever found yourself growing, but as a result, isolating yourself from certain communities? Have you had knowledge that you've wanted to impart to others, that they've shunned due to you seemingly being unsympathetic?
Let me know in the comments.
Sunday, November 23, 2008
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I've definitely felt that. I don't know what you do with it though. You just move on, let people catch up to you at their own speed, or let them keep doing what they want to do.
Yes, I came across this many years ago when I was a day patient at the local mental hospital for depression. I met a lot of friends there, unfortunately, it was all based in "misery loves company". When I finally started to figure out how to cope with my depression, my friends were bringing me down, and I started to distance myself. They in their turn no longer enjoyed my company either, because in their view at best I no longer "got it", at worse I was viewed as a traitor. I was no longer one of them.
I would like to think that the bloggers you read at least intersect at wanting good health (but that may be a naive assumption on my part.)
Absolutely. Thankfully, not with the blogging community, but the frustration of giving advice and not only being ignored but being snubbed and called-out...
..yeah, I'm familiar with that one.
In the end, I had to reevaluate my reasons for giving the advice. And most importantly, I had to reevaluate just exactly who I had planned that advice to help and why.
It hurts, especially when it's someone you considered a friend, and you couched the advice in the most diplomatic way you could think of.
But in the end, you have to weigh the number of people like THAT, and the number of other people who truly care about you and DO get an incredible amount of help from what you do.
And your own enjoyment, as well, though that should go without saying.
Don't let the few get you down. And if you find a way to do that, please, please, share your secret.
I feel the same way. I am just not the activist type at all. I believe in Intuitive Eating and HAES and even FA... but I don't go out of my way to talk about it all that much. Yet I don't care about calorie counting and minutes of exercise and the number on the scale either. So I really find myself in the middle. I rarely comment on any blogs for many of the same reasons. You and Juliet (Eating my Cake) are two like-minded people who I still read... most other dieting blogs, if I do read them, I just shake my head and say nothing. I read for that person, but I try to just stay out of the parts I don't agree with because it is just so frustrating.
Well, you're at a state of contentment. Those who aren't there, can be frustrated. You have what they don't. They aren't there yet, no matter how much they are kidding themselves.
I know, I'm 100 pounds overweight and claiming always to be losing weight but - never actually getting there. Sometimes I'm a little sensitive with what people say and suggest. But, I know it's not their fault. They're just trying to help.
Those people who were bothered by your comments, likely are the same way. They are annoyed because, they haven't got to that state of being you are at.
And there's nothing wrong with you being there. They'll get there some day. And, if they can't accept your helpful comments, don't beat yourself up over it. They aren't ready to hear it yet.
Take care and do not feel guilty for being content in your life. Yea, others have a crappy time with things but- at the same time, you've had that too... don't bring yourself down to the level where others are at. Be at a place where others will try to strive coming up to your level. Don't hurt yourself that way, you deserve that much.
Take care...
Yes. I found that at first I was really into the FA scene but I realized some of it contradicted my beliefs in what I need to do to recover from binge eating. I believe in learning to love myself at any size but I also see that recovering from MY binge eating includes weight loss (healthy, balanced, naturally as I learn to eat differently and change my relationships with food). I am unhappy physically at the weight I am at because I can't do the awesome, adventurous things I used to. I want to rock climb again; I cannot do it in the condition I am in now.
Losing weight for me is not about LOOKING a certain way, but being able to recover from binge eating and resume my favorite activities. It is important for me to lose weight and keep track of it but it is also important that I relax and take it slow and make sure I don't go in the other direction (restricting calories). Right now I am losing weight and getting closer to my goals but I am not counting calories. I am avoiding "trigger foods" but not in a insane way, just in the way that works for me.
The point is, I think, that moderation in either direction is the safe and sane way. Not doing extreme 500 calorie diets... but on the flip side not saying "screw it" and eating 5,000 calories a day... Moderation, Balance, Sanity, Compromise...
Loving me NOW and loving me THEN and loving me TOMORROW...
The other problem is that people can say what they want on their own blogs and if you don't like it, you don't come back. If you do like it, you comment or you follow... Sometimes you mostly enjoy a what someone is saying BUT I don't think that anyone can agree 100% of the time with everything. I have tried to explain on my own blog that "THIS IS WHAT IS WORKING FOR ME." The great thing is that you can take a little bit from everyone and apply it to yourself. Pick and choose and find enjoyment everywhere. I follow strict weight loss blogs AND fat acceptance blogs. I find strength from both.
Sorry. That was kind of long but I related to the FA thing...
Yes, but mine has been about religion. A touchy subject for sure, so I have had to back off and shut the trap most of the time, which is hard when I see people struggling and I want to share how I finally found my own spiritual peace.
But mostly I want to tell you that yes, although we are on different paths (to the same goal: health/happiness of some sort) I so appreciate your honest posts, insights, and comments. We don't have to always agree to find goodness in each other! I admire your peace with yourself. And your level of fitness. And I have learned form your intuitive eating as well. So thank you for sharing those parts of you.
The world would be so boring if we were all the same. No Stepford Wives needed here :)
Marshy - your post articulates beautifully why I no longer hang around on weightloss support boards and rarely comment on weightloss blogs. Apparently, I'm "judgemental", "have my eating down pat" (and therefore can no longer relate to people who are struggling) am "lucky" because I have lost a lot of weight and kept it off... yada, yada, yada.
You're quite right in that, most of the time, people don't really want advice, but want others to commiserate with them.
As for the diabetic who eats poorly, refuses to exercise then faces amputation, or the woman who was horrifically injured because she wasn't wearing a seatbelt... it's hard to feel much sympathy for people who have knowingly engineered their own problems.
Well, you can comment over my way any time you like :D
I do know what you mean, though. I've gone through various levels of change and experience similar things -- or been the cranky one while others were changing.
I think people and places change. In many respects that's a good thing as it shows you have made progress. It's still disconcerting however.
YES!! Although my thing is with work, I've spent so many years working so much that it exhausts me and I don't have energy for anything else - but then when I actually get around to socialising, I have nothing to contribute to any conversations because all I have to talk about it work. BOO.
I think you have a good attitude about it though. by the way, i love your blog. You can motivate me anytime!Look at my blog if you like as well!
You'll probably find they resent you having broken the cycle of despair, while they're still stuck there.
Like another commenter said - it's like a religion and you can't say anything to someone who isn't ready.
I stick with the "hang in there" comments myself, because they're safe! But then again I'm a wuss...
Oh God yes, though I could never go into detail here. Some people only ever want to be affirmed that what they are doing is right, even if it is not. That's why I really appreciated your comment to me about taking Alli. Everyone needs someone to tell them like it is.
Still want to be training buddies? I am going to email you about it. There's a race in March I'd like to enter.
The only thing that helps me to be more sympathetic to people who are experiencing the natural consequences of their actions is to remember that I don't mean for any of the stuff I do wrong to happen. I dunno if that helps. ((HUGS))
You'll probably find they resent you having broken the cycle of despair, while they're still stuck there.
Yeah - I like the way you put that!
I have only been into blogs and vlogs for about a year and a half but I think it is definately true about drifting away from groups. I have drifted away from the group I started out with and the large majority of those people have gone silent.
Drifting away definately happens in real life too. Before I had kids I used to meet up with a group of girls to run. We would meet up 3 - 5 times a week. It was great. However, now the little ankle biters cramp our style and it seems like the 3 of us with kids the same age have stuck together and the ones with older kids have moved on. It is weird. I like all of them but sometimes common ground is the glue that sticks us together.
I had to re-read your post to confirm that someone was planning on eating only 500 calories. Man! I really hope that is a typo. (*crazy*!)
You are a great blogger. Keep up the good work!
Hard to imagine someone driving along without a seatbelt. Very sad indeed.
I think it can be hard to find the fine line between being supportive, and the well what did you expect kind of conversation that sometimes that person (and I put myself right there) might actually need. It's finding that balance between not the postive and negative, but between the hang in there comment, which is brilliant, and it does help, and criticism that is constructive and delivered in a helpful way.
Fat Lazy Guy - Yeah, I know what you mean. Ahhh rock and a hard place.
SeaShore - Your experience regarding depression sounds exactly the sort of thing I'm experiencing. Hopefully the bloggers will want good health, though sometimes, people do awful things to themselves to lose weight :-(
Tami - In the end, I had to reevaluate my reasons for giving the advice. And most importantly, I had to reevaluate just exactly who I had planned that advice to help and why. That's incredibly valuable advice Tami, thank you so much.
Christie - I swear, I could've written your comment :-) Thanks a bunch, hon.
anji - Thank you :-) It's great hearing from someone on the other end of the stick, cheers for a fantastic comment, I'll read it whenever I feel 'that guilt' beginning to set in.
Losing Waist - I know exactly what you mean; I myself have become fat accepting but the movement is very stringent about anything related to weight loss, even incidental weight loss resulting from beginning to assume a healthy lifestyle. Your comments is well received, and you in no way have to apologise for its length - I love long comments :-)
Lyn - Thanks, it's always interesting for me to see how my view are received by you, since we sometimes differ (but diversity is what makes the world go around, we'd be a bloody boring species if we didn't have different opinions, like you said, no Stepford Wives here!)
Susan - I totally understand why you no longer participate on those boards and forums, we're in the same boat. It's a shame, since I believe there is so much that we can offer in terms of encouragement and a positive example. Oh well!
Alexia - Hehehehe, I'll never hesitate to do so, then :-D
Andrew - Indeed. :-)
Sarah-I - Oh boy, I hear you. (And I hear those conversations too :-P) I'm the same though, I bet you get sick of hearing the same stuff from me!
theantijared - Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! I'll definitely check out your blog :-)
Saffa Chick - Cheers, maybe I need to print out a 'Hang in there' sign for myself or something ;-)
cmae - I absolutely still want to be training buddies! You know how to contact me :-D Thanks a bunch, girlie :-)
Sparky - I can totally see how the kids of different ages thing would cause people to drift. And sadly, no, the 500 calories thing is NOT a typo. It sounds crazy, but thousands of people have taken up those very low calorie diets (VLCDs), myself included.
Lucinda - That's a very valuable and valid comment. I guess it's all in the delivery, and drawing on your knowledge of the person that you're talking to. Cheers :-)